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Could I get clarification please.
Is it a score when a player jumps from outside the endzone, catches the disc and then lands in the endzone? I've seen some pretty obvious 'jumps' into the endzone to score the point when their last point of contact prior to catching the disc was not in the endzone.
Maybe I'm old school, but I think it's a cheezy way of scoring...
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Sounds like it isn't a point.
IX.C of the 11th Edition rules say:
A player contacting the out-of-bounds area is out-of-bounds. An airborne player retains in-bounds or out-of-bounds status until that player contacts the playing field or the out-of-bounds area.
So the player is initially out of bounds then is airborne and still out of bounds.
Then IX.E says: A disc becomes out-of-bounds when it first contacts the out-of-bounds area, contacts an out-of-bounds offensive player, or is caught by an out-of-bounds defensive player.
Then the offensive out-of-bounds player catches the disc and the disc is then considered out of bounds.
Here is the link to the rules: http://www.usaultimate.org/resources/officiating/rules/11th_edition_rules.aspx |
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Thanks Marc, but maybe I wasn't clear...
- player is in-bounds on the field, but not yet in the endzone - player then leaves their feet, catches the disc in the air and lands/jumps into the endzone - so last point of contact prior to catching the disc was in-bounds but out of the endzone - in essence, the player never established themselves in the endzone prior to catching the disc
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I concur with Steve - absolutely a point and nothing cheesy about it. However, two ways in which it would not be a point......
1. The player hadn't left the ground yet before catching the disc (and then proceeded to jump into the endzone).
2. The player's feet (or first point of contact) touched the endzone line and/or the out of bounds line when landing. |
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It is a point. It may seem cheesy but to most people it would be good field awareness. IF a player was running full speed and jumped from outside the endzone and caught it while laying out would you call him in or out. He would be in. Although the cheesy hop in may not seem fair the result is the same as the layout. A point is scored. |
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player is in-bounds on the field, but not yet in the endzone |
Oops, my bad ...
Yes, this situation is a bit similar to allowing the disc float until you can grab it in the endzone. |
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It's a point.
Let's assume the player jumps from in bounds (usual case)
Then via:
XI. Scoring
1. A goal is scored when an in-bounds player catches any legal pass in the end zone of attack, and retains possession of the disc throughout all ground contact related to the catch. 1. To be considered in the end zone after gaining possession of the disc in accordance with II.O.2 and XV.E, the player's first point of ground contact must be completely in the end zone.
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So if you jump and catch outside of the endzone, but land your first point of ground contact completely in the end zone, it is a point.
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Fair enough, so long as the spirit of the game is held intact. Thanks for the responses.
BTW, this is my first year with DUC (previously played with TUC about 2 lifetimes ago) this is a great club with great people playing the game... I'm having a lot of fun out there... if only the youngsters wouldn't run so fast!! |
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