2019 Preseason Captain’s Meeting
2019 Spring Captain meeting minutes.docx
- Introductions – Kevin
MacLeod, Chris Beatty and Bryce Zimny
- Teams: Brett
(Throw ops), Indiscribable (Tyler Speakman), Pain in the Grass(Randy(Hot
D), Kenny(Fris BAES), Bryce(Breaking Bad), Marc(Highland Huckers),
Nathalie Drake(Art of Awesome/Redisculus), Pat(The Usual Suspects), Manny(Ultimate
Dummies), Tawnya(Where’s Jerry), Rueben(Flashpoint), Ethan Mackenzie(huge
dumps), Rhian(Fast Count/Telefrancais), Michelle (My dudes),
Kyle(sharkbait/Top Gun/Mighty Hucks), Bill(Landsharks)
- Divisions – All
divisions will be done on ladders which means the schedule will be put out
1 week at a time. There are 5 competitive teams signed up for 5 pm Sunday league
and if one more team can be convinced to move up then the league will have
a competitive division and a recreational division. The ELO rankings
system will be implemented again. Suggestions for the formula are needed.
- Late registrations - Last
teams to enter may be asked to switch divisions or may not play this year
unless we can find another team. Kevin will do everything he can to get
- Wednesday league
-experimenting with gender ratio rule still no foot blocks. One team is
having trouble finding guys due to a conflict with HOUNDD practices.
Individual team needs 5 more girls to run.
- Important Dates
season starts Long weekend Monday May 20th (5 pm teams @ 2 pm, 7 pm teams @ 4 pm). Captains
must explain to their team that this is the only Monday we play on and that all other games will be on
dates 5 pm teams - Saturday August 24, 7 pm teams - Sunday August 25.
must opt into playoffs by August 1.
Charity tournament - June 1st. All information on the site under TOURNAMENTS
tournament is August 10th registration will be up soon
- Memberships are
mandatory. The membership run from April to end of April the following
year. Players must purchase these in order to be selected for any team
- Recruiting women – It
was agreed that there needs to be more of an effort to get more women into
the game and also retain the women we have. Dangerous plays as well as
male players who don’t throw to women were mentioned are reasons why women
are turned off from the game. The league exec asked for volunteers to help
bring more women into the game. If you are interested contact Kevin.
- There will be a 4 week women’s
league running on Thursday nights in Oshawa starting in mid May.
Watch for emails and sign up soon. Incentives will be given for current
DUC women players to recruit new women players.
- Minimum age Requirement rule
Minimum Age for Adult
Since this is an
adult league the recommended age is 18 and over, however, parents or legal
guardians can electronically sign a waiver to allow their children to
participate if the child is in high school and has played a competitive game.
was too vague
specific league will post the rules ahead of time so that captains are aware of
the minimum ages. For leagues that will allow players under 18, here are the
rules that will be applied.
Minimum Age Requirements for
leagues involving team entries
Since this league is
mainly comprised of adults the recommended minimum age is 18.
Exceptions for players younger than 18:
who are in high school are allowed to play so long as
they have parental (or guardian) consent via a signed waiver. In cases
where a player is of high school age but not at
an ability to compete safely the executive reserves the right to remove the
player from the league. (Players entering high school may register for
fall league of same year, but are not eligible for that summer)
who are not in high school may be allowed to play if
they have played on a Durham Ultimate Club junior competitive team, have a
junior coaches recommendation and the executive agrees that the player is both
physically and mentally capable of competing against adults.
Minimum Age Requirements for
leagues/teams involving individual entries or Specialty Leagues
Leagues, such as hat leagues
and parity leagues, that involve the League admin setting up teams of
individuals, will have separate rules for the minimum age which will be decided upon by the League admin to
ensure maximum enjoyment by the registrants. Modified rules will also apply to
teams of individuals who are signing up for different leagues. In some cases
leagues may have very specific age limits, such as an over 18 league or an over
35 league, in which case players younger than those limits cannot play.
This proposed rule was
agreed upon by captains. This rule will be used for Summer leagues this year.
10. Improving Player safety
There was lots of discussion here
about improving the safety of all players and also how aggressive play leads to
women leaving the sport. It was generally agreed that since this is overall a
recreational league where most players just play once a week for exercise and have
no ambition to turn pro that there should be more of a focus on ensuring that
all players go home in the same health as they arrived. Players receiving
concussions or broken bones due to collisions is totally unacceptable. Therefore
it was decided that we would do the following:
Try to make plays without initiating any
Make it a game of skill as opposed to
aggression. If you cannot make a play on the disc without making contact, then
you probably should not make the play.
Saying “I got the disc first” is not an
acceptable defence to colliding with someone. If you hit the disc and then go
over someone’s back or crash into their body this is a foul.
A win at all costs attitude is unacceptable
Captains must talk with their players,
especially those more aggressive players, and try and get them to buy in to the
- Dangerous Play Rule – Within
the rules there is a seldom used rule called Dangerous Play. This rule is
actually different in the USA ultimate rules, where they allow some
contact in certain situations, and the World Flying Disc Federation (WFDF)
where they feel that no contact is acceptable. We need not get into all
the details because it is very complicated and easily misunderstood or
misapplied. What DUC would like to see is that players start to become
educated on this rule in order to improve the safety of our league. Here
is the basic rule
“Reckless disregard for the safety of
fellow players or other dangerously aggressive behavior (such as significantly
colliding into a stationary opponent), regardless of whether or when the disc
arrives or when contact occurs is considered dangerous play and is treated as a
The proper call in this case is
"Dangerous Play." The caller should then briefly explain the grounds
for the call. This call trumps any foul rules and should be used in situations where
the play presented serious risk of injury. Any play that could result in a head
injury should be considered “Dangerous play”. As an example, not all elbows to
a head will result in a concussion but since the possibility of a serious
injury is there, all contact to people’s head should be avoided.
Hopefully by talking about this rule
and also focusing on the information written in the “Improving player safety”
section of the minutes the league becomes a safer and more fun league that
retains all its players.
For those of you that want to know
more about the ins and outs of this rule I will post a document that goes over
a bunch of examples on the forum for discussion
Procedures - the following was very
meetings will be scheduled before and after summer and indoor leagues to
discuss likes and dislikes
– If rule loopholes appear then the executive will immediately poll
captains to determine their opinions. The executive will then have to
decide what to do based on the captains opinions and what is best for the
league. Which consequently may
mean that the league exec instill rules on currently active leagues in
order to address such issues.
Rule - Kyle proposed changing the gender rule from the USAU rule to
the endzone A and B rule. The executive decided that since the idea of
changing the gender ratio to the newest rule was already discussed by
captains and rejected that any other changes to the gender rule would have
to wait until next year. It was then discussed how and when the newest
rule might be implemented. Kyle wanted a firm commitment that the league
would run with the new rule for next summer but ultimately the following
until this summer season is over to see how the Wednesday league works
out using the new rule
and or Kevin would talk with teams over the summer to see how many teams
would be capable of fielding teams to support the new gender rule
women are probably needed to support the rule without men being
- Rosters –
to captains explaining how to set up their teams this year was discussed.
General procedure is to click on team settings, players, add player to
roster, select 2019 as the season and then search for your players and
follow the instructions. If you cannot find a player then they either
haven’t purchased their membership or you are spelling their name wrong. Do not attempt to do this yet because
most people have not bought their membership yet.
must be on roster 24 hours prior to the game in order to be eligible to
cannot be added to the roster until they have purchased a membership. Membership
must be payed online. If players have Paypal fears or troubles, captains
can accept cash from players and then use their own credit card to sign
up the player.
is up to players and captains to make sure they appear on the team’s
public roster prior to playing in a game. Players and captains can be
fined for breaking the rules. Players who do this put the whole league in
order to play in playoffs players must have been on the team roster prior
to July 31st . Kevin will lock the rosters on August 1st
to prevent further changes. If teams need players after this time they
must email Kevin to request that a certain player be added.
there are new captains that need their teams set up then email Kevin to
make switch and give new captain the powers, or stay behind after the
- Teams defaulting regular season – Teams/Captains
will be fined as stated in the league policies.
– once again scheduled at the end of August to allow teams to play a couple
extra league games.
5 pm teams - Saturday August 24,
7 pm teams - Sunday August 25.
Teams must opt in by August 1.
Top 4 teams in each division will
qualify to compete in the competitive playoff tournament. All other teams are
in a second recreational playoff.
Top 2 teams advance to the final
game which will be held on August 27th at the Oshawa civic. 5 pm division
finals will be at 7 pm and 7 pm division finals will be at 9 pm. We will
continue to try and get observers/linespeople for finals.
Teams defaulting a playoff game - New Rule2018: If a team defaults any of their playoff games
they are ineligible to play any other playoff games and the team captain will
be fined $100. The captain will be ineligible to play in DUC until they have
paid this fine.
17.Rained out games – Teams
should not assume that a game is going to be rained out just because it is
raining or rain is forecast. All teams should show up to the field because sometimes
the weather at the field is fine. Teams should also not assume that because the
5 pm game was rained out that the 7 pm will also be rained out. In the event of
cancellations, the convenor will attempt to reschedule games either as double
headers, scheduled throughout the week on any night or on the Monday of the
long weekend in August. If teams cannot field a team for the makeup game, they
will be issued a 5-0 loss instead of a default.
- Field lining - Sunday
Fields will be professionally lined again. Brick will be 20 yards,
endzones will be 18.
- Team Names: Try
to keep them clean. More youth and parents are visiting the site these
- Insurance – through
Ontario Ultimate. When players buy
their memberships they will check off box having said they agree with
- Spirit Committee – In the case of
a conflict of interest the spirit committee will be asked to decide on
consequences for teams breaking rules such as playing illegal players
during a playoff game. (Volunteers, Pat, Rhian, Kyle,
Nathalie, Randy A)
The following items were not
discussed but are still important for captains to know
- Rules –
- For all
outdoor leagues the full USAU rules will govern play. Major change is
that foot blocks are in and so is gender matching. If the receiving team
plays 4 girls and 3 guys the pulling team must match. * Captains can
overrule rules based on mutual agreement.
league will still play with no footblocks (voted by captains)
captains should read the rules. (download App for I-phone or android)
awards 3 points for a win, 2 for a tie, 1 for a loss and 0 for a
team maintains team jerseys in case of colour conflict. Captains should add
their colours to the website.
- Teams not ready on time – 1pt every 5 mins starting 5 min after the hour (25 min game is
defaulted team needs to take line and when ready and points are accrued
when until other team is ready)
Length - Hard cap 1 hour and 40 minutes after the scheduled start time.
So for a 5 pm game this would mean hard cap at 6:40.
A hard time cap is the ending of the game once a predetermined
time of play has elapsed and after the current scoring attempt is
- Half Time - half time occurs when a team reaches a
score of 8. On Windy days captains can agree to a different half time
- Indoor- (this
was not discussed, a meeting will be scheduled for the May time frame)
Break – games ran with minimal subs, should we continue march break games?
different formats for half the season. Example: run Single gender for the fall
session and then coed for the spring session. On Tuesday’s run a hat league for
some of the time and then move into team entries. Run a six on six 3/3 ratio
league. Run Tuesdays as 8 on 8 with no zones allowed.
d. Easter no
games – did this work?
e. Sub rule –
some players playing every week without paying. Teams in the top 4 are only
allowed subs to bring them up to 7 guys and 4 girls.
– should they be allowed?
Breakers for playoffs and for regular season.
i. Head to
ii. Head to
Head plus minus
iii. Total points
against including all games in regular season or playoff games
vi. Coin flip
Coaching Clinics - none planned at
- Prizes: All
league division winners and playoff winners to receive gold discs. Winners
of recreational playoffs may receive prizes of some sort.
- Discs – 18 per team
and captain is responsible for giving them out. Discs must be picked up on
the first day. 1 pm pick up for 2 pm games and 3 pm pick up for 4 pm
- League Party - Family
Fun day proposed for August during the day. BBQ, DISC GOLF tournament,
Cups tournament etc. Possibility of a night time party as well, but on a
different day in September. Party planning Coordinators are still needed.
- Score boards/Cones – Scoreboards
will not be provided. Cones will be provided to new teams. Also, there are good apps on smartphones
that can easily keep track of scores. 8 cones are required and will be
used for determining in and out, but extra’s can be present for vision
- Spirit Scoring – continuing
to use the new spirit scoring system where 2 is the default, a 3 should be
given to teams that were above average and a 4 for a team that was over
the top. Please continue to do a spirit
game and choose players of the game.
- Elementary Youth League – Whitby
and Bowmanville Division, registration still open.
- High School League - Still
room for more players
- U18 Junior girls and boys touring
– All information on the website for any U18 players that want to play.
- Sub list - must
be a DUC member to be on the list. Subs can only sub once a day. To get on
the list or to find players on the list look under registration info on
the main homepage. Captains should ask the player if they have a
membership before allowing them to play. Captains will not be fined if
players lie to them. Players subbing that do not have a membership will be
fined and or banned from subbing.
- Skills Clinics – need
volunteers to run.